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Posted 2003-03-13 4:36 AM (#5039 - in reply to #5001)
Subject: my response to you from below

"violence can have beneficial outcomes..... "

I don't buy this, and such isn't the teaching of Jesus Christ or the Course.

"peace follows war........ freedom follows tyranny...... "

War and tyranny are unnecessary experiences in order to induce peace and freedom.

Jesus teaches there is another Way, and such egotistical methodology is not a part of the sanity he teaches.

You deem a way for mankind to learn which is wholly unnecessary, and in fact, is exactly the reason why Jesus wants us to become miracle workers. He wants us to understand clearly that punishment, violence, and fear, are miscreations which are not a solution yet a perpetuation of insanity.

"that that won't happen unless sadaam is taken out ... "

And the next Saddam, and the bombing of the next country, and on. Such is clearly insanity. You seek to heal the world through murder instead of healing your own mind so that you can See the Reality, the True Nature of what is occurring.

"how the threat of violence has moved things into a global focus in a way that healing can happen"

This is NOT the teaching of Jesus Christ yet past thinking, and past behaviors, which have never worked, and never will. Threat through violence is not a healing methodology.

Stating such is useful, helpful, or of benefit, is in direct opposition to the teachings of Jesus Christ.

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