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Posted 2003-01-24 12:42 PM (#461 - in reply to #456)
Subject: Raj response about healing the body


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QUESTION: [A long list of physical complaints diagnosed by two health care professionals was provided, together with a discouraging prognosis.] My first question is whether you agree with the diagnoses, in whole or in part; and if in part, which parts you disagree with?

ANSWER: This, of course, does present a very bleak picture, especially if each aspect of the body is considered to be interdependent, rather than dependent directly upon its Source, which is the Life-Principle, or God, the Father.

I cannot deny the findings, but I must deny the conclusions, simply because there is not the capacity, within the frames of reference being used by these two health care professionals, to ally the body directly with the Father, and therefore be able to step outside of the apparent interdependency of the various aspects of the body. Indeed, the healing of these symptoms can only be arrived at through this ability to identify every part of the body with the Father as its Source.

Now, your body, although it is currently perceived to be like a string of Christmas lights -- which, if one light goes out, the whole string goes out -- is actually more like the string of Christmas lights where if one light goes out, that is the only light that goes out, and has absolutely no effect on any other light on the string.

You must understand and give some conscious thought to the fact that every single atom, every single molecule, every single electron, and so on, every single cell, every tissue, every organ, is the expression of Meaning, having arisen out of the Mind of God, which is continuing to arise out of the Mind of the Father, unflawed in any way.

It must not be seen that the circulatory system can be disadvantageous to cells, to the extremities of the body, or to any part of the body, as though it could cause anything, because you must come back to the Fact that there is only one First Cause. And you must begin to recognize that your body and the Meanings expressed by all of its various forms are the current expression of a current and living God. This, if embraced and felt and allowed to be true, will allow you to relax and release any sense of personal responsibility, and any sense that you could actually be at the mercy of your body as though it expressed an intent separate and apart from the Father's intent, which is to be.

Now, YOU could attempt, on the basis of their prognosis and determinations, to deal with the situation from that level. But, what is going to heal is to step beyond that level, which is what I have just described doing. The connection between the Father and the body must be seen to be absolute.

Every cell in your body has a relationship to the Father, just as you do. Your relationships with your fellow man become smooth -- ironed out, if you will -- as you open up to your relationship with the Father and are not defended against it in any way, because it is only in the Father that you can find your unity and therefore your harmony with your fellow man.

Relationships are not to be worked out between human beings, but in the discovery that the only relationship there is is between the Individuality and his Source -- meaning the Father -- and in allowing for the experience of that relationship, finding that the dissonance in personal relationships has dissolved because one is not approaching relationships through space, from body to body.

Likewise, the harmony of the body, the health of the body, is not the result of cooperation between parts of the body, but is the inevitable manifestation of the fact that every cell, tissue, atom, has its relationship with the Father. Because it expresses the unity of the Father, when viewed in a larger aspect -- embracing the whole body -- it appears that there is harmony and therefore cooperation. But the fact is that the harmony is there because there is no relationship between the parts of the body. The parts of the body, individually, have their relationship with their Source and can do nothing other than be the Meaning of the expression of that Source, which, because the Father is One and indivisible, constitutes a recognizable integrity of the Whole in form.

QUESTION: Can you tell me about what I would characterize as the error or misperception underneath these individual symptoms? For example, what you're saying is that the right hand is not connected to the "closed heart," but that the right hand has an independent relationship to God. What is it that I am projecting, then, that is causing the organization within that hand to be inharmonious?

ANSWER: It is not so much a matter of what you are projecting as it is what you are withholding. And what you are withholding is the acknowledgment of God right there where that hand is. It is a withholding of appreciation, of love.

Now, the result of withholding that causes you to be in a state of fear, which you then attach to the hand or the part of the body that seems not to be functioning correctly, and that develops into distrust of that part of the body, and creates great agony emotionally and intellectually. But the reason for it is that there has been a withholding of the acknowledgment of the presence of God, and God's Purpose, right there in the hand, or the part of the body reporting distress.

The necessity is to embrace the body with love, to acknowledge its divinity, and in that acknowledgment be the absence of fear, doubt, distrust, and even hate of the body. Thus, the body's divine intent to identify the presence of your Individuality perfectly, has the opportunity to register with you, and with anyone else looking at you, as a healed body.

It is not that you project hate and fear and doubt and distrust upon your body and create the illusion of disease. Projection has nothing to do with it. Those experiences, or emotional reactions are simply what is left when you have withdrawn identification of your body, or your world, or yourself, from the Father, and hold it, or yourself, to be separate and apart and different from the Father.

Now you are beginning to grasp the great necessity of not identifying the body as illusion. The dissonance of the body is illusion. That it can seem to be capable of dying is an illusion. And since those two factors seem to dominate human thought about the body, all other perceptions of the body, are or tend to be, invalid, and therefore illusory. But, you must bring, as the Bible says, every member of the body into subjection to Christ. And that does not constitute the annihilation of the body, but its exaltation, perceptually speaking into the experience of its perfection.

QUESTION: I have made a list of what I term possible mental causes of this physical disharmony ...

ANSWER: I will tell you something. The only cause is the fundamental withdrawal of love. As to specific beliefs, you will find that as you begin to honor your body by loving it as the divine manifestation of the current Will of God -- not in its deformed or dysfunctional state, but in its fundamental purpose and intent -- you will find your specific doubts, or your specific objections, which are what I will call mind-sets, surfacing. And it will then be easy for you to take a look at them so that you may discard them consciously.

It is like turning on the light. The brighter the light gets, the easier it is to see what is cluttering up the room. And so, the exercise or practice of loving your body will act as the light and disclose to you easily the objections, the clutter, that needs to be trashed. You can depend on the very nature of the presence of Light. It is not that it is disclosing to you your flaws. It is that it is providing you the illumination necessary to exercise your intelligence and bring order to that which it was difficult to bring order in the dark.

QUESTION: As I understand what you just said, it was to love the intent behind the expression of my physical body. Not to hold compassion for it and love its deformed or poor little weak hand aspect, but to work at expressing love for the intent behind my expression, and in that light these misperceptions will be presented to me. Did I hear that correctly?

ANSWER: You have it exactly, yes. You do not love the illusion. You do not love the distortion. You love that which is present, which is the expression of the Father, but which at the moment is being covered up by the effect of lack of love, the effect of hate, the effect of distrust, the effect of interpreting the body as a purely physical organism, which is serving as a temporary host for your Soul. You do not love those interpretations or the effects of those interpretations. You love the Actual presence about which those interpretations are distortions. And that then allows for the uncovering of habitual inconsistencies, which you have been embracing that are incongruent with the divine Actuality of your body.

In the disclosure of those inconsistencies you are able to separate the chaff from the wheat, and throw out the chaff, release it, and in the releasing of it observe your body becoming more clearly present in its perfection. This is called healing. It is really the revealing of what has always divinely been present, and it does not constitute the regeneration or "fixing up" of a physical organism that you are still experiencing as a temporary host for your Soul.

QUESTION: Okay. So, I want to love the intent of the expression, and I think you're going to tell me that any intellectual effort to find "Meaning" in what is being expressed in this physical world is fruitless. Am I correct in kind of perceiving here that I need to love something I don't really understand or see? I need to love what is really a kind of mystery, since I don't know the "divine purpose" of this world?

ANSWER: That is correct. It is only a mystery because you are not used to expecting to find God right there where your hand is, or where a tree is, or where the moon is. So, in the newness of this idea, it is as though you are being asked to let yourself into the Unknown -- a Mystery. But, as you begin to do this, and in little ways you begin to find healing occurring, the meaning will become less of a mystery.

Now, when I say "little ways," even the complete healing of all of the physical symptoms you have described would still count as "little ways," because there is still the whole universe and everything in it for you to discover the presence of God in.

Intellectually speaking, it is not without value to look at a thing and ask in your mind, "What is the Truth here in this leaf, in this tree, in this blade of grass, in this clod of dirt," et cetera. It is not impractical for you to mentally express the desire to discern God's purpose in the particular expression of form that you might be looking at.

The disclosure, the revelation of the divine intent, will not come as an intellectual process or flow of words, but rather as an experience of Meaning. So, once you have gone through the intellectual process of expressing your desire or your inquiry in words, then you must leave words behind and not search for words in your mind, but allow, trustingly, the Meaning to unfold Itself at an internal or experiential level, whether that explanation or experience of Meaning comes instantly, or later in the day, or the next day.

The point is to create an "open-endedness" by virtue of your inquiry, and then leave the inquiry open-ended by not filling it with your best conjectures, so that the desire to Know may be filled with the Knowing because you are defenseless -- defenseless in the sense of not blocking the answer by trying to provide one, yourself, through your best intellectual processes.

QUESTIOIN: You have partly addressed this question before I have spoken it. I'm going to speak it anyway. In my most recent experiences it feels like the thought form most powerfully blocking my creative self-expression in a positive relationship to life as a physical expression stems from the feeling that it's not okay to be here because this world is an "attack on God." The very body whose health I want to support is an attack on God. And yet in the principles of A Course in Miracles, if my body is used lovingly, perfect health will result and death will be overcome. The profound split between body, earth, physical experience, and God evoked by the Course, is painful and alienating to me. It alienates me from relating to my physical experience as divine, and so ...

ANSWER: I am going to interrupt here. Again, this distinction must be clear so that what is invalid may be easily discerned and devalued, released. You see, the distinction between the wheat and the tares must take place, so that only the wheat is gathered, because that is the only thing of value.

Now, if you have been functioning in an environment that is cluttered and disorderly, but you have been functioning in it in the dark, and therefore have not been able to perceive that there is disorder, and that, rather, things are "just the way they are," and you must live with it, then when the light comes, it can seem as though the service that the illumination is performing is a disservice, because it uncovers how much of a mess everything is -- and who wants to have mess uncovered blatantly? No one. So, the light is not immediately valued.

What the light does, though, is that it uncovers the disorder so that all of the pieces that are in their inappropriate place, may be re-placed where they belong, and thus be able to be enjoyed.

The clutter is the equivalent of the misperception, the delusion, the illusion, which is to be cleared up as a result of the illumination being present. Understand that the clutter is made up of all that is Real, which has not been experienced truly, and when all that is Real is seen in its proper perspective, or right place, then it becomes truly divinely enjoyable.

The illumination, the presence of the Light, the influx of enlightenment, does not get rid of the environment. Likewise, it does not get rid of the body, of the world, of the things in the world or of the universe. It allows the misunderstandings, due to coming to conclusions in the dark, to be released. The misunderstandings are the "attack on God," in terms of the Course. The misconceptions, the misinterpretations, and the conclusions arrived at as a result of them, are the "attack" on what is Real, because they constitute a perception different from what is true -- a misperception that is inevitable when it is arrived at in darkness. The misperception, taken as fact, stands between the one embracing the perception and the actual experience of Reality. But Reality, the environment is not annihilated with the coming of the Light.

QUESTION: So, in my terms, that is to say that God does intend physical manifestation such as the earth and human beings as part of His expression?

ANSWER: Absolutely. Except, that it is only from within the framework of the misperception, of the ego's frame of reference, that the divine manifestations of God called earth and all of the life forms, and body, and universe, are interpreted as physical, as something other than pure Mind, as mental experiences of the thought and intent of the Father.

The Father does not intend to express himself physically, and the fact is that every "physical form" you see is absolutely divine and totally mental. The concept that it exists as physical matter, separate and different from the things of the Spirit, is part of the delusion, and therefore stands as "an attack on God," an attack on, or a deprivation of, the true experience of the Father in HIS Nature and character expressed as every single form, reflected in each and every form.

You are beginning to grasp what the word "attack" is referring to. It is not referring to the form, but the solid conviction, which has evolved that form is physical, totally different from mind, self-existent, and unlike Spirit.

That is the context in which form is being examined. That is the context in which conclusions about form are arrived at. And that is what denies one the undistorted clear experience of the divinity of everything. Therefore, since it blocks one from the experience of Reality, it constitutes a denial of Reality, and therefore in Course terms, an "attack on God."

QUESTION: Now I'm getting a bit confused. Is it God's intention to express Himself in what I would call a "physical being" who walks around on the ground and eats things and makes love and breathes, and does those things? Or is that not divine? Is divinity some kind of pure absolute Light that I don't yet perceive, and then when I perceive truly, it won't be anything like the physical -- it will be something else altogether?

ANSWER: It will be everything that you are aware of in an entirely new light. Let me put it this way. If you were totally grounded -- always moved around on the surface of the planet -- and your perceptions of your community, and even of your earth, were gathered on the basis of that experience, then the first time you went up in a plane, it would be a very surprising experience to see everything that you were familiar with with that new perspective -- to see the grid lines of the streets, the movement of people and automobiles from a great vertical height. Indeed, when your first vehicles went far out from the surface of your planet and you had the opportunity to see the whole planet in one view, it was, again, surprising, and created a shift of awareness, but one that was relative to absolutely everything you were already aware of. Clouds were not new, but to see their patterns as they move over the ocean and the continents, to grasp in one view the totality, constituted a brand new and less limited perception.

Again, when the first individual set foot on the moon, it changed completely the context in which the moon had been previously experienced. And it caused each individual aware of the accomplishment to know that his foot could have been the one standing there, and therefore he was no longer earth bound. This made each man on the planet an explorer of space that had seemed unjustifiable and truly inconceivable except as fantasy.

Now, absolutely everything you are already familiar with will be part of your awareness when you are not suffering from any delusion about it, but it will be as though everything is new.

Much of your interpretation of your forms and your world is biased by your fundamental delusions. Therefore, you will not only see with new perspective by virtue of a "higher altitude" of perception, but you will find yourself very quickly rid of the misperceptions about things which will cause you to experience them in a new way which is not just perceptual. In effect, it will involve your experiencing your oneness with all things, and that all things are one with you, and that that oneness constitutes not a relationship, but a communion, which means that all things are some aspect of your Self, and you are some aspect of all things.

Your definition and experience of Self will become unlimited, even though there will still be that specific form which specifically identifies you, which you presently refer to as your body.

Now, at the present time, that is all the further we need to explore this. But that gives you some inkling.

QUESTION: My difficulty with that is, that it is very "metaphysical," and it seems to me what I need to know -- like whether I support work on this plane that will manifest as health or what would appear to be regenerated tissues ...

ANSWER: There is only the presence of the Father to be present in. There truly are not "other" planes. Since that is true, then you might as well be about the business of discovering the Father in the only place there is to experience Him, and that is right where you are, and relative to your body, and relative to those on your continent or on your globe.

QUESTION: I want to get clear on this. We're saying that there is a divine "physical" manifestation that doesn't age and die, and that it would be reasonable for me to expect that if I were unified, whole, then I would experience my physical beingness as strong, youthful, healthy, graceful, perfect in form, and not going through aging and debilitation. Is that true?

ANSWER: Absolutely.

QUESTION: And it would not decay and fall down. It may do something else to leave the "physical," but it would remain in some perfectly healthy functional worldly form until it decided to do something else?

**************************************************This is me Joy Muhammed saying this is the beginning of where I think it is so important for the student to pay close attention.***

ANSWER: That is correct. And instead of using the word "physical," let's say stay in "manifestation," even though the manifestation may move elsewhere.

QUESTION: Yes, but the manifestation, in the process of moving, would not age, debilitate, degenerate, and lose vitality?

ANSWER: That is absolutely correct.

QUESTION: And it would still appear to be a human being with flesh and warmth, and all that?

ANSWER: If that particular manifestation fulfills purpose, yes. I can appear to you in that form at this moment, but that is not the mode in which my body naturally exists, because it is a body of Light, and that which conveys what you are referring to as warmth, softness, that which makes a body pleasant to be with or to touch or to experience, is, instead, conveyed by means of colour, and also what you would be inclined to call -- because you do not have better words -- an electrical charge, an infinity of electrical charges. Yet, it is not electrical. It is the energy of Spirit, which is the essence of Meaning rendered visible -- manifest, in other words.

The Meanings that you are conveying by using the words "flesh," and "soft," and "warm," are present and recognizable as exactly what you are meaning, and yet the form, the manifestation conveying the Meaning is different. It does not have what I will call "material accompaniments."

The flesh you are speaking of seems to be capable of decaying and dying, of being dysfunctional. It seems capable of becoming cold, and still, and dead, which is not one of the potentials of the body seen without any distortion whatsoever.

Touching and being touched is also an experience that remains. And yet the "interface," if you will, is not limited to surfaces. And so, to only touch surfaces, as you experience it at the moment, is a very limited experience, which one would not want to return to, unless it was for the novelty of the experience.

Joy Muhammed here~of course this whole piece is profound but this ends the part that expanded my mind on this subject of what Rajpur exactly says about the Body and materialism.*******************

QUESTION: Part of my difficulty in "bothering" with the demands of the body -- the demands for it to be taken care of, for it to eat, to be bandaged if it's wounded -- those demands seem purposeless to me unless I ...

I guess I'm looking for some assurance that the way from where I perceive myself to be now to where you're talking about lies through continuing to experience this physical experience and not just leaving.

ANSWER: That is correct. If you left, you would find yourself in what you would still call a "physical experience," because until the enlightenment, the clearer view, has dawned in your thought, you will still interpret Reality in exactly the same ignorant way. And there is no short cut.

Now, I am going to say one more thing. The necessity relative to your body is to dare to think of the structure that you are experiencing as the "temple of the living God." I reiterate that the body must become embraced within your awareness of what God is, as being completely congruent with the Will of the Father, God's Purpose, and indeed is the manifestation of the Will of the Father in its Truth, or in its Actuality. You must do this so that you will begin to honor what it truly is in a true way, rather than demeaning it because you think it has nothing to do with God and therefore constitutes an impediment to your union with God.

As long as it is seen as an impediment, you will attempt to get out of, or away from, the very thing that is constituted of the presence of the Father, and you will continue to be in the dark, you will continue not to have gained your freedom from illusion.

QUESTION: Thank you for the reminder.

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